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No228   南4局9順目 西家    ドラ       作者:碇スタッフ

状況:きゃっつルール、⑤は一つ赤、トップの北家とは8,800点差
  1. 四筒140
  2. 四筒472
  3. 四筒295
  4. 五筒103
  5. 五筒158
  6. 六筒331
  7. 三索144
  8. 四索103
  9. 六索155
  10. 六索192
  11. 八索144
  12. 八索136
  13. 八索105
  14. 七索165

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347P/2643P

問題投稿者の回答

オーラス、満貫ツモでトップになる条件で、
三暗刻・二盃口が消える打6としました。
受けとスピード的に打6がロスが少ないと思ってのチョイスでしたが、皆さんからの意見を聞きたくて投稿しました。たくさんのコメントお待ちしてます♪

投稿日:14.03.16
投稿者:碇スタッフ

みんなの回答

やーぼう   14.03.17 14:02

受け入れ枚数が一番広いですし、最終的な待ちが3-6筒、2-5索になっても打点が十分足りるからです。

スタッフ   14.03.20 19:44

メンタンツモ赤を狙って手広くいくのがいいんでしょうが、三暗刻好きの私としては6や⑤は切りたくない><

打6と比べても極端に見劣りはしないですよね・・・5も受けれるし。

306   14.03.21 03:17

イメージとしては、赤5を引き入れての⑤切りリーチです♪

ぽっち   14.03.23 09:23

条件:①満ツモ②跳満出上がり③他家からリー棒が出た後の満貫出上がり

③は実践ではよく起こりえるので、ダマ満作るためにピンフを絡めた方が良さそうです。

利点は③⑥が薄くなった時に変則4~5面待ちに取れること、他家の動向により、④が打ちづらくなるケースの対応。

ぱっち   14.03.24 17:10

打牌はほぼ一択。
問題はそのあと。
・ドラ以外を鳴くか?
・テンパイ時のリーチ選択

牌効率   14.03.25 06:19

厳密に一番手広いのは7ツモ切り。
7切りの受け入れは③④⑤⑥⑦256の8種23牌。
6切りの受け入れは③④⑥⑦258の7種20牌。

岸部   14.03.25 08:06

厳密に一番手広いのは打7。(8種24枚)
なのは間違いありませんが、打6と1枚しか差はありません。(8種23枚)
6切りでも⑤の受け入れは残りますよ。
掛けっパネが確定するツモは一つもないので(高めが出ればハネマンはあり)、5200直か、満ツモだと思うのですが、5から引いた時は④-⑦・2-5-8がMAXで13枚待ちになります。
直、ツモ条件なら、こっちの方がいいんじゃないかと?

通りすがり   14.04.02 22:16

理由1)あと2枚引けばスッタンじゃん。という事で7ソ切り。

理由2)そもそも7ソなんか引くから面倒くさくなる。だからいらね。

理由3)もう一か所重なれば、ポン聴マンガン。チイトイのシャンテン。入り目の期待値っぽい議論書いているけど、ちゃんとやるなら2手替わりのこの辺も考慮しないと。で、考慮するとトイツをはずすのは不利。 上がりにくいけどね~。

てか、なんで4ピンがメジャーなの?

トイツ雀士   14.04.04 00:46

岸部プロの言われてる通りドラを引いたら④ー⑦、2ー5ー8の方が良いと思います

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ルー   14.06.11 11:18

喧嘩すんなw
訳すの大変だろうがww

実践では考える時間もないでしょうし、感性的に6ですかね

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